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Familist - all things were ruled by nature and not directly by God
Familist - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Family of Love or Familists (English term) was a mystic religious sect known as the Familia Caritatis (Hus der Lieften; Huis der Liefde; Haus der Liebe; Family of Love), founded in the sixteenth century by Henry Nicholis, also known as Niclaes.
The outward trappings of Nicholis's system were Anabaptist. His followers were said to assert that all things were ruled by nature and not directly by God, of denying the dogma of the Trinity, and repudiating infant baptism. They held that no man should be put to death for his opinions, and apparently, like the later Quakers, they objected to the carrying of arms and to anything like an oath; and they were quite impartial in their repudiation of all other churches and sects, including Brownists and Barrowists.
Nicholis's message is said to have appealed to the well educated and creative elite, artists, musicians and scholars. They felt no need to spread the message and risk heresy; members were usually a part of an otherwise established church, quietly remaining in the background, confident in their elite status as part of the Godhead. As the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition says:
The society lingered into the early years of the 18th century; the leading idea of its service of love was a reliance on sympathy and tenderness for the moral and spiritual edification of its members. Thus, in an age of strife and polemics, it seemed to afford a refuge for quiet, gentle spirits, and meditative temperaments. The Quakers, Baptists and Unitarians may have derived some of their ideas from the "Family."
The Family of Love or Familists (English term) was a mystic religious sect known as the Familia Caritatis (Hus der Lieften; Huis der Liefde; Haus der Liebe; Family of Love), founded in the sixteenth century by Henry Nicholis, also known as Niclaes.
The outward trappings of Nicholis's system were Anabaptist. His followers were said to assert that all things were ruled by nature and not directly by God, of denying the dogma of the Trinity, and repudiating infant baptism. They held that no man should be put to death for his opinions, and apparently, like the later Quakers, they objected to the carrying of arms and to anything like an oath; and they were quite impartial in their repudiation of all other churches and sects, including Brownists and Barrowists.
Nicholis's message is said to have appealed to the well educated and creative elite, artists, musicians and scholars. They felt no need to spread the message and risk heresy; members were usually a part of an otherwise established church, quietly remaining in the background, confident in their elite status as part of the Godhead. As the Encyclopædia Britannica Eleventh Edition says:
Members of the Familists included cartographer Abraham Ortel (aka Ortelius) and publisher Christopher Plantin. Plantin worked by day as Philip II of Spain's printer of Catholic documents for the Counter Reformation, and otherwise surreptitiously printed Familist literature. In the 1580s, it was discovered that some of the Yeomen of the Guard for Elizabeth I were Familists; the Queen did nothing about it, which raised questions about her own beliefs. The keeper of the lions in the Tower of London for James I was a Familist. The biggest colony of Familists was in Balsham, Cambridgeshire. Nicholis's chief apostle in England was Christopher Vitell.Nicholis's followers escaped the gallows and the stake, for they combined with some success the wisdom of the serpent and the harmlessness of the dove. They would only discuss their doctrines with sympathizers; they showed every respect for authority, and considered outward conformity a duty. This quietist attitude, while it saved them from molestation, hampered propaganda.
The society lingered into the early years of the 18th century; the leading idea of its service of love was a reliance on sympathy and tenderness for the moral and spiritual edification of its members. Thus, in an age of strife and polemics, it seemed to afford a refuge for quiet, gentle spirits, and meditative temperaments. The Quakers, Baptists and Unitarians may have derived some of their ideas from the "Family."
8.9.13
Philosopher warns - danger through Christianity collapse
Philosopher warns of danger through Christianity collapse

The controversial Vishal Mangalwadi. Photo: Justin McManus
The United States will start the next world war to restructure the global economy and avoid repaying its debts, dragging Australia with it, predicts an Indian futurologist and social reformer.
Vishal Mangalwadi's second scenario is nearly as apocalyptic: social collapse and violence in the streets when Western countries can no longer afford social welfare due to the collapse of tax revenue, with far more suicides and pressure for euthanasia of the elderly.
These frightening futures are likely because ''the West has amputated its soul'', moving away from the biblical values and Christian heritage that built modern society, Dr Mangalwadi told a seminar at the Victorian Parliament on Friday.
But they were not inevitable, he said. The solution was for the churches to move into full-time education, using their facilities as schools and universities, with online professors helped by youth pastors and teachers on site.
Dr Mangalwadi, a Christian philosopher who founded a community to help low-caste rural poor, is on a lecture tour of Australia organised by Family Voice Australia.
He became a controversial figure in the US last year with an essay, Why Christianity Lost America, in which he said evangelical Christians erred by presenting themselves as ''the party of faith'', allowing secularists to claim they were ''the party of truth''.
Dr Mangalwadi declined to offer a timeline, but told Fairfax Media that the next increase in tension would come when the US credit rating was reduced, and the budget went ''haywire''.
''Unfunded liabilities over the next few decades will reach $200 trillion in the US. As the moral basis of society disappears, people will pay fewer taxes, and will have less confidence in politicians to manage their money.''
Western societies had traditionally been more honest about paying taxes because the Bible taught that citizens should pay from conscience. In most of the world, the rich avoided taxes through corruption, he said.
Western capitalism was built on a culture of trust that was badly shaken by the global financial crisis. ''If Washington can't trust Wall Street, New York, why should China or anyone else? But the world doesn't have the capacity to recover its money from the US because it is the only superpower.
The controversial Vishal Mangalwadi. Photo: Justin McManus
The United States will start the next world war to restructure the global economy and avoid repaying its debts, dragging Australia with it, predicts an Indian futurologist and social reformer.
Vishal Mangalwadi's second scenario is nearly as apocalyptic: social collapse and violence in the streets when Western countries can no longer afford social welfare due to the collapse of tax revenue, with far more suicides and pressure for euthanasia of the elderly.
These frightening futures are likely because ''the West has amputated its soul'', moving away from the biblical values and Christian heritage that built modern society, Dr Mangalwadi told a seminar at the Victorian Parliament on Friday.
But they were not inevitable, he said. The solution was for the churches to move into full-time education, using their facilities as schools and universities, with online professors helped by youth pastors and teachers on site.
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This could rebuild a society that valued morality and conscience, while giving more people access to high-quality education far more cheaply than the present university system, he suggested.Dr Mangalwadi, a Christian philosopher who founded a community to help low-caste rural poor, is on a lecture tour of Australia organised by Family Voice Australia.
He became a controversial figure in the US last year with an essay, Why Christianity Lost America, in which he said evangelical Christians erred by presenting themselves as ''the party of faith'', allowing secularists to claim they were ''the party of truth''.
Dr Mangalwadi declined to offer a timeline, but told Fairfax Media that the next increase in tension would come when the US credit rating was reduced, and the budget went ''haywire''.
''Unfunded liabilities over the next few decades will reach $200 trillion in the US. As the moral basis of society disappears, people will pay fewer taxes, and will have less confidence in politicians to manage their money.''
Western societies had traditionally been more honest about paying taxes because the Bible taught that citizens should pay from conscience. In most of the world, the rich avoided taxes through corruption, he said.
Western capitalism was built on a culture of trust that was badly shaken by the global financial crisis. ''If Washington can't trust Wall Street, New York, why should China or anyone else? But the world doesn't have the capacity to recover its money from the US because it is the only superpower.
29.8.13
Catharist on the sacrament, and their theology - Wikipedia
Catharism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Cathars also refused the Catholic Sacrament of the eucharist saying that it could not possibly be the body of Christ. They also refused to partake in the practice of Baptism by water. The following two quotes are taken from the Catholic Inquisitor Bernard Gui’s experiences with the Cathar practices and beliefs:
Bernard of Clairvaux's biographer and other sources accuse some Cathars of Arianism,[25][26] and some scholars see Cathar Christology as having traces of earlier Arian roots.[27][28] According to some of their contemporary enemies Cathars did not accept the Trinitarian understanding of Jesus, but considered him the human form of an angel similar to Docetic Christology.[29]
Zoé Oldenbourg (2000) compared the Cathars to "Western Buddhists" because she considered that their view of the doctrine of "resurrection" taught by Jesus was, in fact, similar to the Buddhist doctrine of reincarnation.[30]
The Cathars taught that to regain angelic status one had to renounce the material self completely. Until one was prepared to do so, he/she would be stuck in a cycle of reincarnation, condemned to live on the corrupt Earth.[31]
The alleged sacred texts of the Cathars besides the New Testament, include The Gospel of the Secret Supper, or John's Interrogation and The Book of the Two Principles.[32]
The Cathars also refused the Catholic Sacrament of the eucharist saying that it could not possibly be the body of Christ. They also refused to partake in the practice of Baptism by water. The following two quotes are taken from the Catholic Inquisitor Bernard Gui’s experiences with the Cathar practices and beliefs:
Then they attack and vituperate, in turn, all the sacraments of the Church, especially the sacrament of the eucharist, saying that it cannot contain the body of Christ, for had this been as great as the largest mountain Christians would have entirely consumed it before this. They assert that the host comes from straw, that it passes through the tails of horses, to wit, when the flour is cleaned by a sieve (of horse hair); that, moreover, it passes through the body and comes to a vile end, which, they say, could not happen if God were in it.[22]
Of baptism, they assert that the water is material and corruptible and is therefore the creation of the evil power, and cannot sanctify the soul, but that the churchmen sell this water out of avarice, just as they sell earth for the burial of the dead, and oil to the sick when they anoint them, and as: they sell the confession of sins as made to the priests.[22]
Theology
It has been alleged that the Catharist concept of Jesus resembled nontrinitarian modalistic monarchianism (Sabellianism) in the West and adoptionism in the East.[23][24]Bernard of Clairvaux's biographer and other sources accuse some Cathars of Arianism,[25][26] and some scholars see Cathar Christology as having traces of earlier Arian roots.[27][28] According to some of their contemporary enemies Cathars did not accept the Trinitarian understanding of Jesus, but considered him the human form of an angel similar to Docetic Christology.[29]
Zoé Oldenbourg (2000) compared the Cathars to "Western Buddhists" because she considered that their view of the doctrine of "resurrection" taught by Jesus was, in fact, similar to the Buddhist doctrine of reincarnation.[30]
The Cathars taught that to regain angelic status one had to renounce the material self completely. Until one was prepared to do so, he/she would be stuck in a cycle of reincarnation, condemned to live on the corrupt Earth.[31]
The alleged sacred texts of the Cathars besides the New Testament, include The Gospel of the Secret Supper, or John's Interrogation and The Book of the Two Principles.[32]
Catharism, a 12th century Christian dualist movement - Wikipedia
Catharism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Catharism (/ˈkæθərɪzəm/; from Greek: καθαροί, katharoi, "the pure")[1] was a Christian dualist movement that thrived in some areas of Southern Europe, particularly northern Italy, northern Spain and southern France, former Occitania and Catalonia, between the 12th and 14th centuries. Cathar beliefs varied between communities because Catharism was initially taught by ascetic priests who had few set guidelines. The Cathars were a direct challenge to the Catholic Church, renouncing its practices and dismissing it outright as the Church of Satan.[2]
Catharism had its roots in the Paulician movement in Armenia and the Bogomils of Bulgaria, which took influences from the Paulicians. Though the term "Cathar" (/ˈkæθɑːr/) has been used for centuries to identify the movement, whether the movement identified itself with this name is debatable.[3] In Cathar texts, the terms "Good Men" (Bons Hommes) or "Good Christians" are the common terms of self-identification.[4]
The idea of two Gods or principles, one being good the other evil, was central to Cathar beliefs. The good God was the God of the New Testament and the creator of the spiritual realm as opposed to the bad God who many Cathars identified as Satan creator of the physical world of the Old Testament. All visible matter was created by Satan, it was therefore tainted with sin, this even included the human body. Human souls were thought to be the genderless souls of Angels trapped within the physical creation of Satan cursed to be reincarnated until the Cathar faithful achieved salvation through a ritual called the Consolamentum.[5]
From the beginning of his reign, Pope Innocent III attempted to use diplomacy to end Catharism, but in the year 1208 Innocent's papal legate Pierre de Castelnau was murdered while returning to Rome after preaching the Catholic faith in southern France.[6] With the option of sending Catholic missionaries and jurists extinguished, Pope Innocent III declared Pierre of Castelnau a martyr and launched the Albigensian Crusade.[6] [7]
Catharism (/ˈkæθərɪzəm/; from Greek: καθαροί, katharoi, "the pure")[1] was a Christian dualist movement that thrived in some areas of Southern Europe, particularly northern Italy, northern Spain and southern France, former Occitania and Catalonia, between the 12th and 14th centuries. Cathar beliefs varied between communities because Catharism was initially taught by ascetic priests who had few set guidelines. The Cathars were a direct challenge to the Catholic Church, renouncing its practices and dismissing it outright as the Church of Satan.[2]
Catharism had its roots in the Paulician movement in Armenia and the Bogomils of Bulgaria, which took influences from the Paulicians. Though the term "Cathar" (/ˈkæθɑːr/) has been used for centuries to identify the movement, whether the movement identified itself with this name is debatable.[3] In Cathar texts, the terms "Good Men" (Bons Hommes) or "Good Christians" are the common terms of self-identification.[4]
The idea of two Gods or principles, one being good the other evil, was central to Cathar beliefs. The good God was the God of the New Testament and the creator of the spiritual realm as opposed to the bad God who many Cathars identified as Satan creator of the physical world of the Old Testament. All visible matter was created by Satan, it was therefore tainted with sin, this even included the human body. Human souls were thought to be the genderless souls of Angels trapped within the physical creation of Satan cursed to be reincarnated until the Cathar faithful achieved salvation through a ritual called the Consolamentum.[5]
From the beginning of his reign, Pope Innocent III attempted to use diplomacy to end Catharism, but in the year 1208 Innocent's papal legate Pierre de Castelnau was murdered while returning to Rome after preaching the Catholic faith in southern France.[6] With the option of sending Catholic missionaries and jurists extinguished, Pope Innocent III declared Pierre of Castelnau a martyr and launched the Albigensian Crusade.[6] [7]
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