2.2.15

10 reasons Christian heaven would actually be hell - Salon.com

10 reasons Christian heaven would actually be hell - Salon.com



Most Westerners are at least vaguely familiar with the popular
Christian version of Heaven: pearly gates, streets of gold, winged
angels and the Righteous, with their bodies made perfect and immortal,
singing the praises of God forever. What’s surprising is how few people
have actually thought about what a nightmare this kind of existence
would be.Why This Heaven Would Be Hellish


To many
people the biblical description alone is enough to make Heaven sound
unappealing, especially if you add in the company of noxious public
figures like Pat Robertson, Mel Gibson, Sarah Palin, Ken Ham, or Anita
Bryant. (Why does God have such a bad marketing department?) But the
problem isn’t just bad company. The closer you look, the more the
Bible’s version of paradise seems like another version of eternal
torture. Let me spell it out.

1. Perfection means sameness. Much
of what makes life worth living is the process of learning and
discovery, growth and change. We delight in novelty and laugh when we
are startled by the unexpected. Curiosity is one of our greatest
pleasures, and growth is one of our deepest values and satisfactions. In
fact, our whole psychological makeup is designed for tuning in to
change, including our senses. When a sound is continuous, we mostly stop
hearing it; a static image on the eye registers as a blind spot. Even
art relies on imperfection and newness to create beauty or to trigger
our aesthetic sense.

By contrast, timeless perfection is static,
as Christians are reminded in the traditional hymn, “Immortal, Invisible
God Only Wise”: We blossom and flourish as leaves on the tree/And wither and perish but naught changeth Thee. In
the book of Matthew, Jesus commands, “Be ye perfect as your Father in
Heaven is perfect,” and in Heaven, supposedly, this ideal is finally
attained. The problem is, perfect means finished and complete. It means
there’s no room for improvement—for change and growth. Perfection is
sterile, in every sense of the word.

2. Your best qualities are irrelevant.If
everything is perfect, then many of the qualities we most value in
ourselves and each other become irrelevant. Compassion and generosity
are pointless, because nobody is hurting or in need of anything.
Forgiveness? Not needed. Creativity? Courage? Resilience? Decisiveness?
Vision? All useless. Sigmund Freud once said that mental health is the
ability to love and to work, but in the state of perfection both lose
their meaning. There is no need to create or produce, and little value
in offering our affection and commitment to another person who is 100
percent perfect and complete without us.

3. Gone is the thrill of risk.In
addition to loving and creating, some of life’s most exhilarating
experiences require risk: flying down a ski slope almost out of control,
jumping out of airplanes, racing cars, surfing, performing. The
adrenaline rush—the high—and the euphoria afterwards surge only because,
despite our skill and preparation, there was some chance we would fail.

4. Forget physical pleasures like food, drink, sleep, and sex. Does
the risen Jesus with his new and perfect body have a penis? Do angels?
Eating, drinking, or fornicating—each of these physical pleasures
depends on hunger of one sort or another. Ice water tastes most heavenly
when you are hot and thirsty. Falling asleep is most delicious when you
simply can’t stand to be vertical any longer. The reality is that our
bodies and brains are made for each other and optimized for life on this
planet where our pleasures are linked to survival.

To make
matters more complicated, we are predators in a complex web of life. The
eating that gives us so much sensory pleasure and sustenance
simultaneously destroys other lives and creates waste. Christians
disagree about whether there will be meals in Heaven. Some point to
“feasting” in the book of Revelation and reassure foodies that eating and drinking will be part of paradise. But none dare speculate on the perfect slaughterhouse and sewer.

5. Free will ceases to exist. Some
Christians explain the presence of suffering and evil here on earth as
God’s way of creating creatures who would love him freely—by giving them
the option to reject him. But that is exactly the opposite condition
they predict in Heaven. In Heaven there is no sin, no option to sin, and
so, by Christianity’s own definition, no free will. (Some skeptics
point out that “love me or I’ll torture you forever” doesn’t exactly
create the conditions for genuine love either. Why, they ask, would a
god who wants love to be freely given threaten us with hell, even if it
existed? But that is a different article.) Philosophers and
neuroscientists debate whether free will is real or merely and adaptive
illusion. Either way, in the Bible’s version of Heaven, even the
illusion vanishes.

6.  Ninety-eight percent of Heaven’s occupants are embryos and toddlers. Human reproduction is designed as a big funnel. Most fertilized eggs die before implanting, followed by embryos and fetuses that self-abort, followed by babies and then little kids. A serious but startling statistical analysis by
researcher Greg S. Paul suggests that if we include the “unborn,” more
than 98 percent of Heaven’s inhabitants, some 350 billion, would be
those who died before maturing to the point that they could voluntarily
“accept the gift of salvation.” The vast majority of the heavenly host
would be moral automatons or robots, meaning they never had moral
autonomy and never chose to be there. Christian believers, ironically,
would be a 1 to 2 percent minority even if all 30,000-plus denominations
of believers actually made it in.

The theological implications
are huge. Christian theologians typically explain evil by arguing that
this was the best of all possible worlds, the only way to create free
will and to develop moral virtues (like courage, compassion, forgiveness
and so forth), to make us more Christ-like and prepare us for Heaven.
But if we run the numbers, it appears that God didn’t need the whole
free will—sin—redemption thing to fill his paradise with perfect beings
because no suffering, evil, or moral freedom is actually required as a
prelude to glory.

The ratio of adults to embryos has social
implications as well. Pastoral counselors sometimes tell a women she
will get to apologize in Heaven to the fetus she aborted, which will be a
fully developed person there. As a psychologist, I don’t know what this
means, because the brain and mind, our individuality and identity—our
personhood—develop only via experience. Imagine if 98 percent of the
“people” around you had never made a decision or felt sorrow or
experienced anything akin to an adult conversation. The company of Mr. Robertson starts sounding not so bad.

7. Gems and streets of gold define heavenly wealth and beauty.Our
desperate, goat-herding Iron Age ancestors may have yearned for the
trappings of royalty. They may have heard rumors of the gold and jewels
amassed by Pharaohs or kings or tribal warlords and wished the same for
themselves. Both greed and inequality are timeless, and the story of
King Midas has played out in countless variations over the millennia.
So, the fascination of the Bible writers with gold and precious stones
is understandable.

But let’s be honest. Their gem-encrusted
paradise is the product of limited imagination, an inability to dream
beyond the arts, technologies, and mythologies of their own culture. The
Bible’s version of paradise is like a velvet painting from a tourist
shop when compared to an alpine meadow or cloud forest or coral reef (or
when compared to a world that contains all three as Tracy Chapman does
in her song, Heaven’s Here on Earth).

8. Take your pick of sadism or ignorance. One
of Heaven’s dirty little secrets is that it co-exists with hell. Or
maybe it isn’t a secret. Maybe it’s a perk. Some theologians have argued
that witnessing the torment of the damned will be one of the joys of
paradise. In the words of Puritan superstar Jonathon Edwards, who
preached a whole sermon on the topic:

“When
the saints in glory, therefore, shall see the doleful state of the
damned, how will this heighten their sense of the blessedness of their
own state, so exceedingly different from it! When they shall see how
miserable others of their fellow creatures are, who were naturally in
the same circumstances with themselves; when they shall see the smoke of
their torment, and the raging of the flames of their burning, and hear
their dolorous shrieks and cries, and consider that they in the meantime
are in the most blissful state, and shall surely be in it to all
eternity; how will they rejoice!
”
If we are to believe the earnest Christian hate mail that Bonnie Weinstein of the Military Religious Freedom Foundation has compiled into a book, or “love letters” read aloud by biologist Richard Dawkins (watching him struggle with the word biatch is priceless!), at least some of the faithful can hardly wait for the show to start.

Many
Christians, to be fair, find this thought horrifying, and some teach
universal salvation or that evildoers are simply annihilated. But for
hell-believers the alternatives to gloating aren’t a whole lot better:
Either the faithful are blessedly blissfully indifferent to the endless
suffering of the damned, or their joy depends on them being unaware,
meaning ignorance is a condition of their eternal bliss.

9. Your celestial day (and night) job is to sing God’s praises. What
do the faithful do in Heaven? The same thing the angels do. They
worship God and sing his praises. The writer of Revelation even offers
us a sample song. In one passage, 24 elders “fall before the one who
is seated on the throne and worship the one who lives forever and ever;
they cast their crowns before the throne, singing, “You are worthy, our
Lord and God,
 to receive glory and honor and power, for you created all things, and by your will they existed and were created” (Revelation 4:10-110).

As
one graduate of Evangel College (Assemblies of God) observed wryly,
“Having spent some time in N. Korea, where the incessant praise music
and propaganda were required and all-pervasive, I sometimes wonder if
the dynastic leaders there somehow lifted a page from an older
playbook.”

It has been said that the only god worthy of worship is
one who neither wants nor needs it. What are we to think of a deity who
creates the earth and her inhabitants—in fact the entire universe—so a
few bipedal primates, most of whom were never born, can spend an
afterlife in this posture of praise and adulation?

10. This Heaven goes on forever. Most
of us would prefer to live longer than the time allotted to us. Aging
sucks, and losing a loved one is one of the most painful wounds we can
experience.

But forever? Forever is infinity. It never
ends. Think of the best possible experience you can imagine—your
favorite symphony or rock concert, the most beautiful place you’ve
traveled, the most intimate or intense sex ever, holding your child…any
one of them, stretched to infinity becomes unthinkable.

WHAT IS HEAVEN

The books of the New Testament were written at different times and for
different ends, which means they don’t always agree. Although Paul, in 1
Corinthians, says that
Heaven is beyond imagining, other writers offer concrete details. The
popular version of Heaven today is a composite that comes from several
texts but relies heavily on the book of Revelation.

  • Heaven is a real place. The writer of John puts these words in the mouth of Jesus, “In
    my Father’s house there are many dwelling places. If it were not so,
    would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go
    and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to
    myself, so that where I am, there you may be also”
     (John 14:2-3NRSV). Some Christian leaders use verses from Old Testament prophets to pinpoint the location of Heaven, suggesting that it is somewhere beyond the North Pole.
  • People in Heaven have bodies. The earliest Christian texts, the letters of Paul, suggest that the eternal body is pneuma or
    spirit, but later New Testament writers inclined toward physical
    resurrection of both Jesus and believers, though with renewed bodies.
    This view was affirmed by Church fathers and
    is now the predominant Christian belief. From this we get the
    Evangelical belief that in the “End Times” bodies of believers will rise
    up to Heaven in a Rapture. This belief in a bodily resurrection is
    even used to explain why Christian women should keep their bodies “pure.”
  • Trappings of wealth abound. Many
    translations of the Gospel of John say that the dwelling places in
    Heaven are mansions, which fits with other descriptions of heavenly
    opulence. In the book of Revelation, the writer is taken in a vision to
    glimpse Heaven for himself: “And the foundations of the wall of the
    city were garnished with all manner of precious stones. The first
    foundation was jasper; the second, sapphire; the third, a chalcedony;
    the fourth, an emerald; The fifth, sardonyx; the sixth, sardius; the
    seventh, chrysolyte; the eighth, beryl; the ninth, a topaz; the tenth, a
    chrysoprasus; the eleventh, a jacinth; the twelfth, an amethyst. And
    the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gate was of one
    pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent
    glass.” 
    (Revelation 21). God sits on an ornate throne,
    and along with crowns, the heavenly hosts are clothed in white, a
    symbol of purity and a reminder that they do not need to work.
  • Heaven is eternal and reserved for believers. The Bible verse that is most quoted by Protestant Christians is John 3:16, which makes both of these points: For
    God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that everyone who
    believes in him may not perish but may have eternal life. 
    The author of Revelation assures that, “he will wipe every tear from their eyes. Death will be no more; mourning and crying and pain will be no more” (Revelation 21:4). In this eternity, it is always light and there is no need for sleep.
  • Children who die before an “age of accountability” also go there. Despite
    the belief that children are born bad, thanks to “original sin,” many
    Christians believe that children who die young go to Heaven because the
    alternative is simply unthinkable. For evidence, they point to two
    verses in the book of Matthew: “So it is not the will of your Father in heaven that one of these little ones should be lost” (Matthew 18:14). “But
    Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me, and do not stop them;
    for it is to such as these that the kingdom of heaven belongs
    ”
    (Matthew 19:14). Although Christians have disagreed over the centuries
    about when a budding human acquires an immortal soul, many now believe
    this happens in the process of conception.
  • Inhabitants spend their “time” serving and worshipping God. Even though it is always light, we are told that the saints (meaning the saved) will serve and worship God round the clock. For
    this reason they are before the throne of God, and worship him day and
    night within his temple, and the one who is seated on the throne will
    shelter them 
    (Revelation 7:15). Several passages suggest that the faithful will receive crowns, which they can then offer up as gifts to God. Some take this literally and some do not.

31.1.15

Stephen Fry on God | The Meaning Of Life | RTÉ One





Published on 28 Jan 2015
The Meaning of Life with Gay Byrne, Sunday 1st February, 10.30pm

See more at: http://www.rte.ie/player

26.1.15

Marcus Borg, Leading Liberal Theologian And Historical Jesus Expert, Dies At 72

Marcus Borg, Leading Liberal Theologian And Historical Jesus Expert, Dies At 72



(RNS) Marcus J. Borg, a prominent liberal theologian and Bible
scholar who for a generation helped popularize the intense debates about
the historical Jesus and the veracity and meaning of the New Testament,
died on Wednesday (Jan. 21). He was 72 and had been suffering from
pulmonary fibrosis.

Borg emerged in the 1980s just as academics
and theologians were bringing new energy to the so-called “quest for the
historical Jesus,” the centuries-old effort to disentangle fact from
myth in the Gospels.

Alongside scholars such as John Dominic
Crossan, Borg was a leader in the Jesus Seminar, which brought a
skeptical eye to the Scriptures and in particular to supernatural claims
about Jesus’ miracles and his resurrection from the dead.

Like
other scholars, Borg tended to view Jesus as a Jewish prophet and
teacher who was a product of the religious ferment of first-century
Judaism.

But while Borg questioned the Bible, he never lost his
passion for the spiritual life or his faith in God as “real and a
mystery,” as he put it in his 2014 memoir, “Convictions: How I Learned
What Matters Most,” the last of more than 20 books he wrote.

16.1.15

Pope sides with Muslim faithful in Charlie Hebdo debate: 'You cannot insult other people's faith'

Pope sides with Muslim faithful in Charlie Hebdo debate: 'You cannot insult other people's faith':

Paris: Pope Francis said there are limits to freedom of expression, weighing in on the side of those in France and elsewhere who say Charlie Hebdo's cartoons of prophet Muhammad went too far.
"You cannot insult other people's faith," he told reporters on Thursday aboard a plane taking him from Sri Lanka to the Philippines as part of his Asian tour. "You can't make fun of other people's faith," The Pope also said killing in the name of God was "an aberration." The comments were broadcast by Radio Vatican.
Speaking his mind again ... Pope Francis attends a press conference aboard a plane during his trip to the Philippines.
Speaking his mind again ... Pope Francis attends a press conference aboard a plane during his trip to the Philippines. Photo: AFP
Nine journalists at Charlie Hebdo were among those killed by two self-proclaimed Islamist terrorists who stormed the offices of the satirical magazine in eastern Paris on January 7. The assailants said their actions were meant to "avenge" the prophet, a popular subject for cartoons at the magazine. The Charlie Hebdo shootings were among three such attacks in and near Paris last week that claimed 17 lives before police killed the three gunmen.
The attacks rekindled debate on how far publications can go with religious images that some may find offensive. That came as rallies across France with signs saying "Je suis Charlie," or "I am Charlie," on January 11 drew a record 3.7 million people to the streets to pay homage to the victims and defend freedom of expression.
In its first publication since the attacks on Wednesday, Charlie Hebdo put the prophet Muhammad on its cover, raising hackles in Turkey and Iran. The special issue featured a cartoon of Muhammad, crying, against a green background, holding a board saying "Je suis Charlie" or "I am Charlie." Above his image is written "All is Forgiven." Publishers are printing about 5 million copies in more than 16 languages.
Tributes of drawings, flowers, pens and candles are left in front of the Charlie Hebdo offices.
Tributes of drawings, flowers, pens and candles are left in front of the Charlie Hebdo offices.
France's L'Express magazine published an editorial by a professor at Namur University in Belgium, who said there is "a distinction to be made between what one says and how one says it." While Jean-Michel Longneaux agreed on the right to debate everything, he said Charlie Hebdo's "mocking" way of doing things should be off limits.
French comic Dieudonne, who has had several run-ins with the law for what are seen as anti-Semitic comments, was arrested on Wednesday at his home in north France for posting "Je Suis Charlie Coulibaly" on his Twitter account. Amedy Coulibaly was one of the three gunmen in last week's attacks. He will be prosecuted for defending terrorism.
In 2011, Charlie Hebdo published a special edition called "Charia Hebdo" featuring Muhammad as a "guest editor." The cover showed the prophet threatening readers with "100 lashes if you don't die of laughter." Shortly thereafter, Charlie Hebdo's Paris offices were firebombed in an overnight attack. No one was injured.
In 2006, the magazine reprinted cartoons of Muhammad originally published by a Danish newspaper, which had prompted violent protests. Muslim tradition deems the depiction of the prophet as blasphemous. Islamic organisations sued the magazine over the drawings, a case dismissed by a French court in 2008, according to the Charlie Hebdo website.
"In France, one can draw everything, including the prophet," Justice Minister Christiane Taubira said on Thursday after attending a memorial service for one of Charlie Hebdo's cartoonist.

10.1.15

After A Year Without God, Former Pastor Ryan Bell No Longer Believes

After A Year Without God, Former Pastor Ryan Bell No Longer Believes

Posted:


(RNS) Ryan Bell — the former Seventh-day Adventist pastor who spent 2014 living as an atheist — is ready for his big reveal.

After chronicling the last 12 months on his blog Year Without God, Bell — who
now works as director of community engagement at People Assisting the
Homeless in Southern California — announced in an interview with NPR
that he no longer believes in God.

Bell talked with Religion News Service about his decision and what it will mean to him and his loved
ones. Some answers have been edited for length and clarity.

Q: This weekend you told NPR: “I don’t think that God exists.” Can you elaborate?


A: I think the best way I can explain the conclusion I’ve come to — and
conclusion is too strong a word for the provisional place I now stand
and work from — is that the intellectual and emotional energy it takes
to figure out how God fits into everything is far greater than dealing
with reality as it presents itself to us.

That probably sounds very nonrational, and I want people to know that I have read several
dozen books and understand a good many of the arguments. I’d just say
that the existence of God seems like an extra layer of complexity that
isn’t necessary. The world makes more sense to me as it is, without
postulating a divine being who is somehow in charge of things.

Q: You also said that you’re “still the same person deep down that I was
before.” What was valuable about the past year? Would you do it again?


A: I would definitely do it again! And I’ll go a step further: I think
others should do it, too. Anytime you can step outside your comfort
zone, you will learn important things about yourself and the world. I’ve
learned that atheists are not the miserable nihilists that many
Christians think they are.

I’ve also had a few remarkable moments
of irony. Once I was in a gathering of atheists and the speaker referred
to “seeing the light” and “finding freedom at last.” It struck me then
that most people really are searching for the same thing.

Q: Do you still plan to write about, speak and work in the atheist community?


A: I do, in some capacity. I don’t think I’ll be joining a crusade to
destroy all religion anytime soon, though some days I’m tempted. I just
know too many good people of faith to see religion as any kind of
universal evil. But I do think that there is much work to be done with
and among atheists.

I have a special interest in post-theists —
people who are in the in-between phase that I’ve been inhabiting for the
past year. There are thousands and thousands of people who are betwixt
and between, and there is next to nothing for them in the world of
religion. I’d like to be a part of that conversation.

Q: After a year, what do you think about the priorities and actions of the atheist movement in the U.S.?


A: On the whole, I love the no-holds-barred search for truth. I love
the honesty and clarity of speech that is so often lacking in religious
circles, where everything is couched in metaphor and innuendo.

On the other hand, I recoil from a one-track-minded scientism that I
sometimes encounter — as though science has all the answers for every
question that a person has ever asked. There is also a kind of smug
condescension that is hard for me. I still have scores of Christian
friends who are not dumb. Their faith is not like believing in Santa
Claus. The more the atheist movement behaves like the traveling
evangelists I encountered as a conservative Christian, the more I cringe
— and for the same reasons.

Q: Your significant other is a Christian. How are you navigating that?


A: It’s challenging sometimes, but she is an open-minded, thoughtful
person. I’d call her a Christian Humanist, or a Humanist in the way of
Jesus, if that makes any sense. I still share a love for the stories of
the radical Jesus preferring the poor and downtrodden, so we’re not as
different as it may seem on the surface. Besides, our relationship is
about more than debates about God’s existence.

Q: What would you like to say to people who question your motives or sincerity?


A: There’s not much I can say. I don’t feel like I need to defend
myself. I’ve only lost money and earning potential this year, but I
wouldn’t change a thing. I guess I can’t prove I’m not being dishonest
any more than I can prove that God doesn’t exist. People will just have
to evaluate the evidence and decide for themselves.

Q: You’ve lived as a Christian and an atheist. What’s one thing you wish
more Christians knew about atheists? One thing you wish more atheists
knew about Christians?


A: I wish more Christians knew that atheists are not nihilists who have
no meaning to their lives or people with no moral compass. They’re not
stubbornly rejecting God. All the atheists I have met have seriously hit
a brick wall while trying to know God.

I wish more atheists knew that Christians care very deeply about knowledge and truth. They are not
stupid. In every group there is a percentage that are ignorant — but if you take a wider view, Christian intellectuals have contributed a great deal to the body of human knowledge through history.

Jesus 'Never Existed,' says Historical Researcher - Billionaires Australia

Jesus 'Never Existed,' says Historical Researcher

Jesus of Nazareth was a mythical character who never really existed, according to historical researcher, Michael Paulkovich.

Mr Paulkovich said that he found no verifiable mention of Christ
amongst the writings of 125 authors during the ‘time of Jesus,’ from the
first to third centuries.

Instead, followers of Christianity created him as a figure to
worship, the historian says in an article entitled ‘The Fable of the
Christ’ and a book called ‘No Meek Messiah.’

Despite the supposed global miracles’ carried out by Jesus, there was
a distinct lack of evidence for his existence in the historical texts,
he said.

“When I consider those 126 writers, all of whom should have heard of
Jesus but did not – and Paul and Marcion and Athenagoras and Matthew
with a tetralogy of opposing Christs, the silence from Qumram and
Nazareth and Bethlehem, conflicting Bible stories, and so many other
mysteries and omissions – I must conclude that Christ is a mythical
character.

“Jesus of Nazareth was nothing more than urban (or desert) legend,
likely an agglomeration of several evangelic and deluded rabbis who
might have existed.”

In fact, Mr Paulkovich found just one mention within the writings he
studied, and that was fabricated and added later by editors, he claims.
The book called The Jewish Wars by Roman historian Josephus Flavius, was
written in 95 CE. However, Mr Paulkovich says that the mention of Jesus
was not in fact written in the original text, but rather added at a
later stage.

The historian also says that the Bible contains no evidence of the
actual existence of Jesus, saying that Paul, who is often thought of as
the person who spread the religion that would become Christianity, never
mentions Jesus as a real person.

“Paul is unaware of the virgin mother, and ignorant of Jesus’
nativity, parentage, life events, ministry, miracles, apostles,
betrayal, trial and harrowing passion. Paul knows neither where nor when
Jesus lived, and considers the crucifixion metaphorical.’

Mr Paulkovich also says that Jesus himself would have written
personal accounts had he been real, but that the silence proves his
theory that he was a fictional character.

The highly controversial views are likely to be disputed by the
majority of scholars, who agree that Jesus was a Galilean Jew born
between 7 to 4 BC.

Comments

  • Fabulous! It is easy to read Paul's letters and not once does he mention 'Jesus'. He mentions a 'Lord' but that could be anyone.
    If the greatest record keepers of the era, the Jews and the Romans, did not mention a "Jesus" then he must be merely a compilation for the convenience of the power mongers.
    All of the 'events of Jesus life' have been stolen from the stories of Horus, Osiris and Isis. Nothing is new in the stories of the Xtian "Jesus'" life. NOTHING.

    Whether Jesus's existence as a real person is provable or not, it doesn't make the idea that his Dad was the Sky Fairy any more likely. Nor that his mother was a virgin (he was a human, therefore he had a complete genome, so whose DNA comprised the half that was not Mary's?); that he rose from the dead and ascended to Fairyland; that we are all made in the image of the Sky Fairy and only humans have an eternal "soul"; and that if you do not repent your wrongdoing and accept Jesus as your personal saviour the loving and kind Sky Fairy will abandon you and you will burn in hell eternal. The Sky Fairy and his son Jesus also somehow love children so much that thousands of them are born in Africa every year with HIV.
    Come on, do Christians honestly believe in this stuff? When a telescope will tell you we're clearly just not that significant? The universe is far more interesting than these old folk tales, get with it people!

    The Mishnah (c. 200) may refer to Jesus and reflect the early Jewish
    traditions of portraying Jesus as a sorcerer or magician.Other
    references to Jesus and his execution exist in the Talmud, but they aim
    to discredit his actions, not deny his existence.Josephus' Antiquities
    of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to the
    biblical Jesus Christ in Books 18 and 20. Of the other mention in
    Josephus, Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman has stated that "few have
    doubted the genuineness" of Josephus' reference to Jesus in Antiquities
    20, 9, 1 and it is only disputed by a small number of scholars.Roman
    historian Tacitus referred to Christus and his execution by Pontius
    Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44, 45. The
    very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage
    extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe[42] and the
    Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation
    of Christ's crucifixion,although some scholars question the
    authenticity of the passage on various different grounds

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    The Mishnah (c. 200) may refer to Jesus and reflect the early Jewish
    traditions of portraying Jesus as a sorcerer or magician.Other
    references to Jesus and his execution exist in the Talmud, but they aim
    to discredit his actions, not deny his existence.Josephus' Antiquities
    of the Jews, written around 93–94 AD, includes two references to the
    biblical Jesus Christ in Books 18 and 20. The general scholarly view is
    that while the longer passage, known as the Testimonium Flavianum, is
    most likely not authentic in its entirety, it is broadly agreed upon
    that it originally consisted of an authentic nucleus, which was then
    subject to Christian interpolation or forgery. Of the other mention in
    Josephus, Josephus scholar Louis H. Feldman has stated that "few have
    doubted the genuineness" of Josephus' reference to Jesus in Antiquities
    20, 9, 1 and it is only disputed by a small number of scholars.Roman
    historian Tacitus referred to Christus and his execution by Pontius
    Pilate in his Annals (written ca. AD 116), book 15, chapter 44, 45. The
    very negative tone of Tacitus' comments on Christians make the passage
    extremely unlikely to have been forged by a Christian scribe and the
    Tacitus reference is now widely accepted as an independent confirmation
    of Christ's crucifixion,although some scholars question the
    authenticity of the passage on various different grounds

    "independent confirmation", written almost 90 years after the event. Are you kidding me? Where did he get his information from?



8.1.15

Religion is a “medieval form of unreason”: Salman Rushdie responds to Paris attacks - Salon.com

Religion is a “medieval form of unreason”: Salman Rushdie responds to Paris attacks - Salon.com

In a statement, the author defended satire
and called for "fearless disrespect" of all religions

Religion is a "medieval form of unreason": Salman Rushdie responds to Paris attacks 

Salman Rushdie is the latest figure to publicly respond to Wednesday’s attacks on Paris’ satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo which left 12 dead.

In the statement, published on the website for English PEN, an organization that promotes freedom of speech, Rushdie not only condemns the shooting, but religion as a whole.

“Religion,
a mediaeval form of unreason, when combined with modern weaponry
becomes a real threat to our freedoms,” he wrote. “This religious
totalitarianism has caused a deadly mutation in the heart of Islam and
we see the tragic consequences in Paris today.”

Rushdie expresses
his support for the publication and calls for the defense of satire,
“which has always been a force for liberty and against tyranny,
dishonesty and stupidity.”


The author and his work garnered international attention when Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini placed a fatwa on his head following the 1988 publication of “The Satanic Verses.”

“‘Respect
for religion’ has become a code phrase meaning ‘fear of religion,’” he
concluded. “Religions, like all other ideas, deserve criticism, satire,
and, yes, our fearless disrespect.”



Joanna Rothkopf


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